Friday, November 27, 2009

Do the Liberals really believe our generals are liars?

It’s a funny old world, isn’t it? The Liberals and the New Democrats bang on about our military turning over Afghan prisoners to Afghan authorities who, according to some sources, are then tortured. All the opposition parties seem concerned about is somehow proving that Canada is at fault and so to discredit the current government and, in so doing, destroy the credibility and reputation of our armed forces.

But do they offer ten cents worth of consideration for the victims of the alleged torture? No they do not. There are no demands that the Afghans stop the torture. There are no demands that NATO intervene and take control of captured Taliban. The opposition’s allegations are serious—tantamount to war crimes—so why don’t they call for the court martial of senior military officers?

Could it be that the Grits are less sure of their position after the generals testified before the parliamentary committee? Or perhaps Michael Ignatieff’s past support for torture under certain circumstances has muddied the waters and caused Liberal attack dogs to be muzzled?

Regardless of the reason, I find the more subdued approach by the Liberals as seen in Bob Rae’s appearance on Thursday’s Power Play on CTV News to be far more helpful to Canadians as they work their way through this file. Rae looked uncomfortable and restrained.

It is all about partisan advantage, of course. Outrage and witch-hunting are de rigeur. Don’t oppose government policy on principle, but slander and accuse (mainly with parliamentary privilege) the government at every opportunity. Waste time and money. Call for public inquiries. All these tactics are standard operating procedures.

And Canadians become more cynical and more and more stay home on election day.

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  1. Rae always looks uncomfortable and restrained.That is how he felt during Iggy's coronation and during the failed coup scam.

    Excellent point on the Libs view on the concern for the victims of torture.I have not heard it anywhere else.

    I left out "alleged" when mentioning the torture victims. It is clear that the Libs have made up their minds that all the prisoners ARE victims of torture.

    But to try and answer your question I'd say two things.

    1. There is no practical way to prevent the torturing anyways.They know that Canada cannot act to stop it.

    2. Canadian voters don't really believe that all prisoners were tortured or that most were just farmers and tax accountants.No one is surprised that some torture allegations are made. Even the Libs. don't have the stomach to genuinely show concern for the torture victims.They know enough to stop short of demanding it stop.


  2. My letter in the Montreal Gazette today:
    What a great group of serving and retired generals we have representing the Canadian Forces ("Torture not mentioned in Afghan detainees reports: Generals," Gazette, Nov. 26). And what amazing soldiers we have who treat with restraint Taliban thugs who have blown up one of their fellow infantrymen or women.

    And what a low group of media types we have for trumpeting this story for weeks of how our forces have supposedly shamed us in Afghanistan.

    Nicola Timmerman
    Roxboro, Quebec

    (I am only anonymous because I am technologically inept and have never got a Open ID name or Google name or whatever - I use my name whenever I can).

  3. Well of course they do...after all, the Taliban TOLD Colvin they were being tortured, so of course the generals are lying!!!

    sarc off.

  4. When I saw Bob on Power Play I thought "Wow, the Libs are going all in!". Then he started to slowly back the LPC away from the brink, leaving Jack and Gilles clasping hands at the precipice like Thelma & Louise.

    Did the Libs do this purposely to spank their opponents on the left or are they getting out before it's too late?

    Either way, Bob Rae is one smooth mother and should have been their leader.

  5. Main Entry: trai·tor
    Pronunciation: \ˈtrā-tər\
    Function: noun
    Etymology: Middle English traytour, from Anglo-French traitre, from Latin traditor, from tradere to hand over, deliver, betray, from trans-, tra- trans- + dare to give — more at date
    Date: 13th century
    1 : one who betrays another's trust or is false to an obligation or duty
    2 : one who commits treason

    enough said

  6. You put your name on your comment, Nicola. That's plenty good enough for me. Thanks for taking the time to comment.

  7. See Donato cartoon in Friday Toronto Sun.

    Terry, Waterloo

  8. Rae is the son of a diplomat and knows very well that you can't bring a 7th Century country to modern standards in a few months. The Liberals were idiots to take on this file to smear MacKay and senior public servants and the military, and to risk having the Canadian military being accused of crimes. He is smart enough to see that his party drafted the process in 2005, so he now wants to make it go away. Very dangerous game they have played this month and I hope Canadians punish them for this. This is the worst fake scandal yet, designed to appeal to Quebecers!

  9. The Taliban like other terrorist groups that the liberals support, know very well that the liberal party of canada as well as the NDP and the BLOC are on their side more so than on the side of their people, canadians, the innocent afghans and canadian military.

    NDP supports the HAMAS.

    The generals will live with the image of themselves being called liars by their own canadian countrymen to last with them to their dying day.